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( May. 2nd, 2024 09:08 am)
Misc. comments 66: terminology, the river Thames, recipes and ingredients, family trees, classifying fruit, covid precautions, learning math, subscription prices, reasons for blogging )
covid vaccination and masking )



[personal profile] minoanmiss was talking about kids at the place she works trying to get out of math class. [personal profile] amaebi talked about her son's math classes, and I wrote:

Reading this comment, I think part of why I came out of high school still liking math may be the teachers, and another part may be the slightly odd curriculum they were using. It was the "experimental" math track per my high school, and "unified" according to the university that promoted it; we got a lot of the standard material, up to calculus, but also propositional logic (in eighth grade), Cartesian geometry (instead of Euclidean), and combinatorics. The school also had a "regular" math sequence, and students who found experimental too difficult (or, I would guess, whose parents thought it was too weird) could move into those classes, which also led to calculus).




In response to [personal profile] brithistorian wondering about weird magazine prescription costs:

My guess, beyond late stage capitalism being weird, is that they're somehow still selling advertising to companies based on the number of people who are reading, or at least getting, the print edition.

If so, it benefits them to be sending out more paper copies, even to people who read the digital version and will throw the paper magazines away without opening them. It sounds like the prices of daily newspapers increased when they were selling fewer ads. What I paid at the newsstand in the morning was about enough to cover the paper and printing costs, and the reporters' and editors' salaries, the fees for syndicated comics and columnists, and any profits all were paid for by advertising.

It's not quite "if you aren't the customer, you're the product," but it's a little bit in that direction. At one point, my daily English-language newspaper options in New York included several that cost about 50 cents, plus two free papers given out at subway and railroad station entrances, and the Wall Street Journal and Women's Wear Daily.


[personal profile] finch was talking about "why do I blog anyway?" and I said:

Part of why I post here is for my own later reference, which includes both things I hope will be interesting to others, and minutiae of stuff like starting on new meds. I made a bunch of posts early in the pandemic because I could feel time just slipping away, then.

My posts here are also about talking to people, which is sometimes conversation and sometimes "here is information I think you might find useful.".

There's a pinned post at the top of my Dreamwidth account page, which says this is [partly] an online substitute for a paper journal, and also invites new readers to introduce themselves.
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( Jan. 1st, 2023 03:09 pm)
Happy Fibonacci Day! 1/1/23

As [personal profile] carbonel pointed out, this works in both the American month/day format and the European day/month format.
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( Jul. 20th, 2016 02:12 pm)
I turned in the copyediting job, and am now back to proofreading a math book. Here at the bottom of page 16, I find "By the axiom of choice, there exists a set B which consists of one element from each Aα."
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"If you ever find yourself raising log(anything)^e or taking the pi-th root of anything, set down the marker and back away from the whiteboard; something has gone horribly wrong." —Randall Munroeq
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( Jun. 28th, 2010 08:52 pm)
I'm not sure why I'm so pleased by today's xkcd, but I am. ([personal profile] cattitude says the mouseover text is what makes it, but I was smiling before I got to that)
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A bit of googling this morning made sense of yesterday's mystery: the key word was "three," and the sentence needs rearranging. What they're trying to say, I think, is "when three lines meet at a point, they are called concurrent." Which is not a neologism, but doesn't match the other meanings of "concurrent," which were used in several previous lessons, so I hope the editor will make that (or some similar) change, so the students will see "this is an additional meaning of the word" rather than wondering what it means to say lines are the same length (that being what "concurrent" means for line segments).

This is a lead-in to stuff about triangles and the intersections of their angle bisectors, etc., which lurk under names like "incenter" and "orthocenter" and "circumcenter" (the circumcenter of a triangle is not always within the triangle). I suspect that the bit about concurrent lines could be deleted without any loss to understanding, but I'm not editing this book.

Someone asked, in response to yesterday's post, what I like about working on the algebra books, and why they bother issuing new geometry books, because aren't they all more-or-less literal translations of Euclid's Elements, since there's nothing new in geometry.

The short answer to the first includes that I like helping get things right, and that in some moods I enjoy things like factoring quadratics and getting paid for it. For the second, there are several answers, including "there's quite a bit new in geometry, and a little bit of it even turns up at the high school level." However, while I like tesselations, they don't lead much of anywhere, and I'm not convinced the addition of the "kite" to the list of standard quadrilaterals is an improvement. Trigonometry, which is a significant part of high school math and at least some of which is in geometry, is not in Euclid. Non-Euclidean geometry, which is also not in Euclid, is well beyond the scope of what we're being asked to cover, even though our world is not in fact a plane. Other answers (in addition to "because people want to buy the books," which is non-trivial: if nobody would buy them, we wouldn't bother producing them) include that different books emphasize different subsets of mathematics, and that even if the ideas or results are the same, there may be different good ways of teaching them, in different contexts and for different learners.
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than geometry: but you can't always get what you want.

Cold-reading a geometry book is useful. Doing the same for an algebra book is that, and sometimes also fun.

Also: I left today after getting to a lesson whose beginning falls into "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong." A sentence in a high-school math review/test prep book that begins "If lines are congruent," has nowhere useful to go. I'm hoping that in the morning I will be able to get some idea of what the writer actually meant to say and/or what the editor thought was there, which may mean guessing at the line that the compositor dropped. If not, it gets flagged as "Rosemary, this doesn't make any sense. What's in the manuscript?"
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This is, I think, more technicality/terminology than anything. One of my fellow editors ran into this:

Is y-0 [equivalently, f(x)=0] a function that is symmetric with respect to the x-axis?

It seems to me and her that it is, but a site she often finds reliable claims that there are no such functions.

[Note: this is a technical point, not that she and I have forgotten how to graph simple curves: y=x2 is a function, but x=y2 is not a function but a relation.]

ETA: Thank you all. Within a couple of hours, I was able to go back to Marta and tell her that I'd had responses from people I trusted, including a Ph.D. mathematician, and she and I were right and the web site was wrong. When she first asked me, after lunch, she wasn't going to consult her usual source because the manuscript is due Monday.
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This is, I think, more technicality/terminology than anything. One of my fellow editors ran into this:

Is y-0 [equivalently, f(x)=0] a function that is symmetric with respect to the x-axis?

It seems to me and her that it is, but a site she often finds reliable claims that there are no such functions.

[Note: this is a technical point, not that she and I have forgotten how to graph simple curves: y=x2 is a function, but x=y2 is not a function but a relation.]

ETA: Thank you all. Within a couple of hours, I was able to go back to Marta and tell her that I'd had responses from people I trusted, including a Ph.D. mathematician, and she and I were right and the web site was wrong. When she first asked me, after lunch, she wasn't going to consult her usual source because the manuscript is due Monday.
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( Nov. 28th, 2007 08:16 pm)
I just inadvertently downloaded a calculus textbook.

Downloading a calculus textbook isn't inherently weird, but I suspect most people who do so, do so on purpose. I followed a link in an email message to "my new favorite calculus textbook," expecting to find a review, or a chance to buy the book. What I found was Marsden and Weinstein's Calculus Without Limits. I haven't read far enough to know whether it's any good, though the authors do seem capable of putting together paragraphs of English prose.
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redbird: full bookshelves and table in a library (books)
( Nov. 28th, 2007 08:16 pm)
I just inadvertently downloaded a calculus textbook.

Downloading a calculus textbook isn't inherently weird, but I suspect most people who do so, do so on purpose. I followed a link in an email message to "my new favorite calculus textbook," expecting to find a review, or a chance to buy the book. What I found was Marsden and Weinstein's Calculus Without Limits. I haven't read far enough to know whether it's any good, though the authors do seem capable of putting together paragraphs of English prose.
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( May. 21st, 2007 10:28 pm)
At the moment, the state of the Vicki is "somewhat stressed," of the sort where I realized from physical signs and then stopped and figured out (at least most of) why. Much of it is self-limiting: both my menstrual period and my pre-con jitters will be over soon, no matter what I do.

This afternoon at work, I wound up explaining to my officemate why "what does the graph of edx/dy look like?" isn't a well-defined question, after he asked me what said curve would look like. (No, this had nothing to do with anything either of us was working on, and next time I'll let him re-teach himself calculus; I had to explain to him that yes, derivatives are calculus.) He was willing to accept it when I wrote down four relatively straightforward equations, the relevant derivatives for each, and how different ethose values were. Nothing weird, just stuff like f(x)=x2, f(x)=x-3, and f(x)=cos(x). And then I went back to fiddling with grammar and typos, and looking up the diameter of Betelgeuse (which was work-related) and the area of Florida (ditto).

I've also been to the gym, which helps some with the stress. numbers cut, as usual )
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( May. 21st, 2007 10:28 pm)
At the moment, the state of the Vicki is "somewhat stressed," of the sort where I realized from physical signs and then stopped and figured out (at least most of) why. Much of it is self-limiting: both my menstrual period and my pre-con jitters will be over soon, no matter what I do.

This afternoon at work, I wound up explaining to my officemate why "what does the graph of edx/dy look like?" isn't a well-defined question, after he asked me what said curve would look like. (No, this had nothing to do with anything either of us was working on, and next time I'll let him re-teach himself calculus; I had to explain to him that yes, derivatives are calculus.) He was willing to accept it when I wrote down four relatively straightforward equations, the relevant derivatives for each, and how different ethose values were. Nothing weird, just stuff like f(x)=x2, f(x)=x-3, and f(x)=cos(x). And then I went back to fiddling with grammar and typos, and looking up the diameter of Betelgeuse (which was work-related) and the area of Florida (ditto).

I've also been to the gym, which helps some with the stress. numbers cut, as usual )
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I spent my lunch hour at my bank, opening an Individual Retirement Account (IRA) [1] at the last minute. The computer system didn't believe it was before the deadline for a 2006 IRA, but the humans did, and there had been enough calls about this before the banker helping me picked up the phone that they gave her the workaround in a very calm way. (It involves hand-amending the documents, in red, and both bank employee and customer initialing the change.) [livejournal.com profile] cattitude and I will sit down and talk a bit about suitable investments for said money, and I'll go in next week or the week after and get that sorted out; on this sort of last-minute thing, it had to go in a bank IRA for the nonce. [The reasons it was done at the last minute are obscure and uninteresting.]

After work, I went to the big post office at Eighth Avenue and 33rd Street, and mailed our "please give us an extension" forms, complete with checks based on rough calculations in case we hadn't gotten in under the deadline to open the IRA. In a week or two, we'll file an actual tax return, including "and send us back the money we just sent, we have a significantly smaller taxable income than we thought we might." And then I walked up to Ben and Jerry's, because I was feeling very much in need of an ice cream cone.

The rest of the day, I spent cheerfully copyediting a book that I'm thinking of as "review all of high school math in four days," not because the students will be expected to go through it that fast, but because I am. This really does seem to be a fairly complete package: linear equations to fractals, Euclidean geometry to conditional probability. Conditional probability was late this afternoon. I got to that lesson, thought something deep like "conditional probability, good" and then proceeded to tinker with the phrasing. That I think things like "conditional probability, good" is probably right up there with my persistence in checking the arithmetic (and leaving annotated corrections in some places) with why they're happy to give me all the math, and give the language arts projects to someone who has more of a feel for what's wanted there. (I also cheerfully do science and social studies.)

And now I am reheating chili; [livejournal.com profile] cattitude is out at a play, but I felt the need for a quiet night at home.

[1] There are tax deductions involved, which is why there's a meaningful deadline.
I spent my lunch hour at my bank, opening an Individual Retirement Account (IRA) [1] at the last minute. The computer system didn't believe it was before the deadline for a 2006 IRA, but the humans did, and there had been enough calls about this before the banker helping me picked up the phone that they gave her the workaround in a very calm way. (It involves hand-amending the documents, in red, and both bank employee and customer initialing the change.) [livejournal.com profile] cattitude and I will sit down and talk a bit about suitable investments for said money, and I'll go in next week or the week after and get that sorted out; on this sort of last-minute thing, it had to go in a bank IRA for the nonce. [The reasons it was done at the last minute are obscure and uninteresting.]

After work, I went to the big post office at Eighth Avenue and 33rd Street, and mailed our "please give us an extension" forms, complete with checks based on rough calculations in case we hadn't gotten in under the deadline to open the IRA. In a week or two, we'll file an actual tax return, including "and send us back the money we just sent, we have a significantly smaller taxable income than we thought we might." And then I walked up to Ben and Jerry's, because I was feeling very much in need of an ice cream cone.

The rest of the day, I spent cheerfully copyediting a book that I'm thinking of as "review all of high school math in four days," not because the students will be expected to go through it that fast, but because I am. This really does seem to be a fairly complete package: linear equations to fractals, Euclidean geometry to conditional probability. Conditional probability was late this afternoon. I got to that lesson, thought something deep like "conditional probability, good" and then proceeded to tinker with the phrasing. That I think things like "conditional probability, good" is probably right up there with my persistence in checking the arithmetic (and leaving annotated corrections in some places) with why they're happy to give me all the math, and give the language arts projects to someone who has more of a feel for what's wanted there. (I also cheerfully do science and social studies.)

And now I am reheating chili; [livejournal.com profile] cattitude is out at a play, but I felt the need for a quiet night at home.

[1] There are tax deductions involved, which is why there's a meaningful deadline.
I would further like to note that an isoceles right triangle cannot have sides all of whose lengths are a whole number of units, and that whoever edited that manuscript should have noticed that 20:20:24 isn't even close to the right value of the hypotenuse. Since the point of the example is naming shapes of triangles, not the Pythagorean theorem, and they haven't had irrationals or the Pythagorean theorem yet, it got a suggested change to 28 (the closest integer to the actual value), and a note that we can't avoid irrationals, with the shorthand explanation "(1:1:√2)". I haven't handed it in yet, and am now wondering whether it would be better not to give a length for the hypotenuse. The editor on this project may know their pedagogy, but they're not sufficiently intimate with numbers.
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I would further like to note that an isoceles right triangle cannot have sides all of whose lengths are a whole number of units, and that whoever edited that manuscript should have noticed that 20:20:24 isn't even close to the right value of the hypotenuse. Since the point of the example is naming shapes of triangles, not the Pythagorean theorem, and they haven't had irrationals or the Pythagorean theorem yet, it got a suggested change to 28 (the closest integer to the actual value), and a note that we can't avoid irrationals, with the shorthand explanation "(1:1:√2)". I haven't handed it in yet, and am now wondering whether it would be better not to give a length for the hypotenuse. The editor on this project may know their pedagogy, but they're not sufficiently intimate with numbers.
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I just turned a manuscript in to my supervisor. He then asked if I was
comfortable with math, and when I said yes, he asked "up to what level?"
I told him pre-calc (I'd rather not deal with epsilon-delta proofs ever
again). He then introduced me to the head of the math team (the actual
editor for this MS being away this week), and told her I was comfortable
with math "Up to the dizzy heights." I noted that I didn't think
pre-calc was the dizzy heights, and she then took a couple of minutes to
discuss layout and formatting for this project. It's for Grade 8.

If my level of math is that impressive, I suspect I'll be here a while.
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