What would be implied by a person or culture (possibly, but not necessarily, one of the Fair Folk) addressing people as "Daughter of Adam" and "Son of Eve"?

From: [identity profile] zsero.livejournal.com


A few years ago, I came across a list of alleged Talmudic references to the Lilith legend, and looked them all up - not a single one panned out. The one biblical usage seems to mean a type of bird, possibly an owl of some sort. There are a few references in the Talmud that could either mean a type of bird or a type of demon, and some more that seem clearly to mean a type of demon, but not one specific demon (the word used in almost all these places is 'lilin', which could be a plural of 'lilith'). And there was one reference which seemed clearly to refer to one specific demon with the name 'Lilith', but there was no indication that she had any connection to Adam.

Now it could be that there is a clear Talmudic reference to the Lilith legend, that wasn't on the list I saw, but I'm skeptical.


From: [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com


Lilith (a female demon) is referred to in Job 18:15 and Isa 34:14, and the note (in the new Swedish translation) says the Adam coupling is a post-biblical tradition.

From: [identity profile] zsero.livejournal.com


The 'lilith' in Isa 34:14 (http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il/i/t/t1034.htm) ('there the lilith rests, and found itself a resting place') could be read as a species of demon, but it could just as easily be any sort of animal or bird which can be found in old ruins. There certainly seems to me no basis for reading it as a reference to an individual (of any species) with the name Lilith.

As for Job 18:15 (http://kodesh.snunit.k12.il/i/t/t2718.htm) I assume your source is translating mibelilo as 'from in his lilith', which is a vast stretch, to say the least; a much more likely translation is 'from not being his' or 'that which is not his' (mibeli lo).


From: [identity profile] zsero.livejournal.com


For some reason the online version of Job I linked to above represents mibelilo as one word. Last night I looked it up in a printed version, and it's two words: mibeli lo. That absolutely explodes any notion of it referring to Lilith. Mibeli, literally, means ‘for lack of’, and lo means ‘to him’.
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