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([personal profile] redbird Feb. 21st, 2004 09:22 pm)
This afternoon, [livejournal.com profile] cattitude and I met [livejournal.com profile] treadpath and [livejournal.com profile] screaminghippo for pizza and a visit to the American Museum of Natural History, which has a special exhibit on the city of Petra. On the way in, Cattitude and I rejoined the museum; this not only gets us unlimited visits, and a discount on snacks and gift shop and such (though it'll be a few weeks before we get our membership cards), we'll get Natural History magazine again. And they threw in two free IMAX tickets, usable any time this year.

Petra is a city--now, the ruins of a city--in northern Arabia, built around the 4th century BCE by the Nabataeans. They turned a defensible location with reasonable access to water (no small matter in Arabia, then or now) into a major trading crossroads.

The exhibit was excellent, though smaller than I'd have liked. Most of the material was on loan, largely from the Jordanian Department of Antiquities. I suspect a large part of the problem is that there aren't that many portable artefacts from Petra: the people built by carving into the stone. But there were pictures of the stone tombs, pieces of buildings, a bit of jewelry, some sections of pipe, and images of deities, some made locally and some obviously imported. With trade came cultural influences. After Alexander the Great came back from India, the Nabateans started carving elephant heads into their buildings as a symbol of strength; some of the images show obvious foreign influence.

At the museum entrance, they gave us timed tickets; there was a guided tour leaving at the time we asked for, but we weren't required to stay with it. We didn't, partly because I wasn't thrilled with the guide, and partly because I didn't want to be surrounded by lots of strangers and thus unable to see the exhibits clearly. Fortunately, the explanatory material in the exhibit is also good: often, along with descriptions (e.g., "bronze lamp with human figure handle") there are discussions of cultural influences, and then a section on "how we know".

Petra was badly damaged by an earthquake, a couple of centuries after the Romans took over Arabia [there were notes on why they think the takeover wasn't by battle] and some time after Christianity became important in the city. The earthquake has been dated, and the "how we know" explains that, first, an earliest date was put on the quake by the discovery of a hoard of coins known to have been minted in a given year. And then a letter was found describing the quake: the author not only dated the letter, he gave the time of the quake itself and the aftershock. (The city had already become less important, as trade moved elsewhere for a variety of reasons.)

I wasn't surprised that they were getting pepper and fabric over the Silk Road, nor that Petra is mentioned in Chinese records beginning in the 2nd century BCE. What surprised me is that one of those Chinese mentions is of a troupe of traveling jugglers who had come from Petra to China.

After the Petra exhibit, we went down to the Hall of Ocean Life; I was the only one of us who'd seen it since it reopened. I had to bail out earlier than I'd wanted; first my toes cramped in a weird way while we were walking around, and then I just felt vaguely unsteady and quite tired, so it was clearly time to go home. Tea helped, but not enough; we were close to Museum closing time, and I wasn't up for a long wander outside, even on a relatively mild day. Once again, I was glad of that the basement entrance of the museum connects directly with the IND subway line.

From: [identity profile] dakiwiboid.livejournal.com

I am soooo jealous!!!


Is this show going to travel? Did they mention that anywhere? I have had a powerful yen to visit Petra forever and ever, and it seems I'll always be too poor to do so. A nice exhibit would be the next best thing.

From: [identity profile] cattitude.livejournal.com

Re: I am soooo jealous!!!


The full title of the exhibit is "Petra: Lost City of Stone," and it will be traveling. It opens next in Cincinnati in September. A quick scan on Google didn't reveal where it goes after that.

And it really is worth seeing, Isises (Ises?) and indian elephants and all.

From: [identity profile] dhole.livejournal.com

Roman Arabia


As I understand it, the Roman Empire didn't penetrate much further into the Arabian penninsula than present day Jordan; Roman Arabia was essentially the former Nabatean kingdom, and encompassed the Sinai, the Negev, and Southern Jordan, and was called "Arabia Petrea".

I could be wrong about that, though.

From: [identity profile] the-gardener.livejournal.com

Re: Roman Arabia


According to Warwick Ball's Rome in The East: The Transformation of An Empire -- covering the period from the annexation of the Seleucid Empire to the end of the Empire in the west -- there were five regions labelled "Arabia" by Roman sources. Three lay within the Empire -- the Nile delta, northern Mesopotamia, and Nabatea (also known as Arabia Petraea) -- and two without: Arabia Deserta (central Arabia) and Arabia Felix (southern Arabia or Yemen). However, only one of the three within the Empire was officially designated as a Roman province: Provincia Arabia, corresponding roughly to the borders of the annexed Nabatean kingdom.

Having got that bit of pedantry out of the way, I shall now make you all jealous by saying that [livejournal.com profile] headgardener and I have actually visited Petra, and it was triffic. I understand that since then -- it was in 1992 -- more of the public buildings along the main street have been excavated and restored. I'd rather like to go back and see them....

From: [identity profile] orzelc.livejournal.com


So, Kate and I went out for a nice dinner at a French restaurant last night (getting a couple hours away from Emmy, Queen of Niskayuna), then came back home to loaf on the couch and watch a movie. After considering several options, we settled on Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (we got the DVD set for Christmas, but hadn't watched any of them yet). The climax of the movie, of course, is the discovery of the Holy Grail not in a thrift shop in England, but in a massive temple carved into the rock wall of a canyon in the Middle East.

"You know," I said to Kate, "There's a real city like this. I'm not sure if they shot there, or it's just a set. But there's a whole city cut out of the rock of a canyon somewhere. It's pretty cool."

Of course, I couldn't think of the name of the city. Until I came upstairs after the movies, and saw this. Synchronicity, I guess.

From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com


Oh, now I am homesick for the American Museum of Natural History. :)

From: [identity profile] jerrykaufman.livejournal.com


You inspired me to retrieve, from its hiding place on a shelf behind the television, a gorgeous book on Petra I bought at a convention last fall and then forgot all about. Thanks!

From: [identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com


Oh! One of my newfound historical interests is the history of East/West interaction...how far Buddhism had gotten, and when, etc.

Do you happen to know of a good source for that sort of thing?

From: [identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com

Re: East-West interaction


A few good sources would be a good thing, since I'm not sure how to phrase a search string for this concept.

Buddhism got as far as Afghanistan, and I'm wondering how much further it got. (Okay, what I really want is probably the complete listing of the holdings of the library at Alexandria, or something, but I'll take what I can get.)

From: [identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com

Re: East-West interaction


But I don't actually want the history of Buddhism in Europe, I want the pre-Christian history of Buddhism outside of India and the Far East.
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