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([personal profile] redbird Jan. 21st, 2003 05:43 pm)
The people I had this writing project for have decided that they can't use my material any further--apparently, despite having hired me on the basis of writing samples, they have concluded that my style doesn't fit what they need.

Furthermore, Rafiq is a coward. When I emailed him to ask about the status of the project, he sent a message saying "I'm not handing that project anymore, I've forwarded your email to Jocelyn." She, in turn, gave me the bad news, in the form of a copy of a message that she says bounced a couple of days ago because she misremembered my domain name.

They want me to invoice for my hours [sic] thus far. I'm torn between pointing out that I've already done so (in December, in fact) and doing a revised invoice that accounts for the rewriting/expansion work. I think I'll do the latter--the worst that can happen is that they refuse to pay the extra. I don't think there are any more bridges left to burn here.

Rejection hurts. Rejection at this stage hurts worse--I'd already gone through the interview and the request for writing samples and the explicit approval/acceptance.

Also, I was counting on the money from this work.

I suspect I'm going to have to find a regular job, meaning going back to a boring hair color.

From: [identity profile] papersky.livejournal.com


Damn. *hug* I don't know what they wanted, but you were probably doing it too well for them. Gah. I'd definitely re-invoice and do it by time, because if they're capable of that runaround with different people and forgetting domain names, well, they'll lose your invoice. Send two.

I asked if I could have you to do my copyedit. Probably won't come to anything, because of corporate stuff, but I did say you'd be ideal are were likely available.

I hope something good turns up soon that you can do with purple hair.

From: [identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com


Dang, that sucks.

I'll fall back on "probably better off" -- as in, you're probably better off not being tied down to a project run by a group that disorganized and/or underhanded.

Here's to something you can do with purple hair. I know two librarians with purple hair, if that's any help. (I know you're not looking for librarian work, just saying that there are jobs out there where purple hair is okay.)

Maybe someone [*looks around*] could write a filk of "Purple Rain" called "Purple Hair".

From: [identity profile] replyhazy.livejournal.com


Shit! is right. Very sorry to hear about this. And worse than anything else, they wasted a bunch of your time. They should definitely pay for the extra time. They blew you off for a while, but you were still putting effort in.

Best of luck, regardless of hair color. I suspect we will not see you at Corflu, which makes me sad.

From: [identity profile] yonmei.livejournal.com


{hugs}
Sorry to hear about this. What a mess. Definitely, invoice them for the hours you've put in right up till when they gave you the boot.

From: [identity profile] minnehaha.livejournal.com

Re: General follow-up


Invoice for everything you did. Let them decide what to not pay you for. There's no reason for you to second guess yourself, and there's no possible way you'll get paid for the time/words/whatever if you don't invoice.

B

From: [identity profile] pickledginger.livejournal.com

Re: General follow-up


You did the work - bill 'em for it.
Of course, you'll also need to send them the stuff you'd done, and not submitted - maybe with a Post-It "Additional work completed by XX/XX"? ... or, maybe just as part of a full copy of *everything* done by the drop-dead date?)

And be glad they won't be jerking you around anymore.
(What do you want to bet, they're as disorganized at issuing payments as they've been at everything else??)

From: [identity profile] purpletigron.livejournal.com

Re: General follow-up


What [livejournal.com profile] pickledginger said! Don't suppose you can add a `severance charge' (I'm joking, unless there is some scope in the USA system for a `you jerked me around' charge?).

I just buzzed my hair, and feel quite happy with that whilst volunteering, but wonder if it might cause problems at interview. Then again, could I bear a job with people who wouldn't like purple/buzzed hair? Bah!

From: [identity profile] micheinnz.livejournal.com


Aw, bugger!

Still, this obviously means the Universe is making sure you're free for something better.
pameladean: (Default)

From: [personal profile] pameladean


Oh, ick. I'm very sorry. I think you are very likely better off not working for such people, but their money is the same color as anybody else's.

I'd charge them for everything written and see if you can get away with it. With luck they'll be so miserably organized they'll just pay you.

Pamela

From: [identity profile] marykaykare.livejournal.com


I echo Pamela, ick. So sorry to hear it. Hugs if you like.

MKK

From: [identity profile] mittelbar.livejournal.com


Gaaaaaar!

I mean. Um. Oh, shit. Bite! Snar!

Kill fee. Big fat hefty retroactive kill fee.

Um.

Sorry. Very sorry. Mad.

From: [identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com

re: Shit!


Sorry to hear about this turn of events. They do owe you for the work completed even if they're not going to use it. You're right to bill them for everything you've done thus far, because they asked you to do it, even the extra stuff.

Does your contract have anything about work that's accepted, and how/when? Just thinking of ways clients try not to pay. (My old boss's contracts always covered stuff like that -- if not rejected w/in n business days, deemed accepted.)

Ah, the joys of the freelance world (dammit).

From: [identity profile] bibliofile.livejournal.com

Re: Shit!


Oh, and now that it's later in January, additional work might be flowing out a bit faster. I think you don't have to re-color your hair just yet.

From: [identity profile] rdkeir.livejournal.com


good luck, Vicki. I've read a lot of your writing, on rasff and here, and have always thought of you as a clear and thoughtful writer. If clear and thoughtful writing doesn't fit, so much the worse for their project.

From: [identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com


Chiming in late with my sympathies as well. I know all too well about weaselly clients, and wish thee and me far fewer of them in the future.

From: [identity profile] crazysoph.livejournal.com


Sympathies from this quarter, as well, for the lost time, the suffered disorganization and, also, having to put up with a coward who couldn't give you The Bad News straight.

Phooey.

Crazy(reading some really worthy things to remember about invoicing, too!)Soph

From: [identity profile] roadnotes.livejournal.com


Damn. That sucks big time. I'm sorry, and sorry to hear about Rafiq.

From: [identity profile] bookworm1225.livejournal.com


I can't offer much in the advise department, but I can offer plenty of sympathy. (So does Kelly from the MOO, btw. Just told her about it.)

*pats Redbird onna shoulder*

*pulls out a previously-unnoticed roll of newspaper, and thwaps Rafiq upside the head*

*Bookworm declares a Pie War on Rafiq and his crew for being disorganized cowards who wouldn't recognize great writing if it bit 'em on the nose.

Bookworm pulls out a Lemon Cream pie, and takes careful aim...*

Hope that'll give you a bit of a smile.

From: [identity profile] bohemiancoast.livejournal.com


Such bad news! For all that you were probably better off without them.

Does purple hair really damage people's employment prospects these days?

From: [identity profile] greenfizzpops.livejournal.com


That's really horrible, and I'm sorry to hear you got messed around like that. 3-(

From: [identity profile] serendipoz.livejournal.com


*argh*

that's terrible news Vicki. Sorry to hear about it.

Definitely bill them for everything you've done (appropriately documented and supplemented) in a 'timely manner' and rebill them if they don't pay in a couple weeks or whatever.

Usually January breaks up better for finding work - budgets are decided and people are now starting to spend the year's money. I'm uncertain where you'd look in your area, but best of luck.
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