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([personal profile] redbird Aug. 5th, 2010 10:34 pm)
Apparently there has been significant turmoil at my old high school: the NY Times is reporting on the third principal to resign in five years, against a background of questions of race and/or socioeconomic discrimination.

Apparently they don't, these days, have a valedictorian. Instead, students are invited to submit speeches to be read at graduation, and the faculty pick one. This year, they picked Justin Hudson, one of the few black students, who talked about the fact that there are so few black or Hispanic students, and so few students from poor neighborhoods. Being the New York Times, they don't actually say "class," much less "institutional racism," but they do quote Hudson on the subject of discrimination in admissions:

“If you truly believe that the demographics of Hunter represent the distribution of intelligence in this city,” he said, “then you must believe that the Upper West Side, Bayside and Flushing are intrinsically more intelligent than the South Bronx, Bedford-Stuyvesant and Washington Heights. And I refuse to accept that.”


As far as I can tell, the main change in demographics from my day is that there are now about as many Asian-American as white students.

According to this story, the high school faculty were much more supportive of Hudson than the Hunter College president; stress between the college and the high school is at least a factor in the turnover in the principal's office.

[Expository lump: Hunter is a selective talented and gifted school, grades 7-12, admission only at the beginning of seventh grade. It gives its own admissions test. Many students get tutoring for the test. This surprised me. My mother says that yes, some people were doing that in my day, but she thought it wouldn't be fair to arrange that for her children. She also didn't think we needed it, which may have been maternal pride but proved correct.

Hunter is part of the City University of New York, under the auspices of Hunter College; at least in my day, it was in theory, among other things, a place for college students to get teaching practice. We were hard on student teachers, but I suspect so are most high school students.]

(I'm posting this largely for myself and for the fellow-Hunterites reading this journal who may not have seen this. My mother, a former president of the alumnae/i association*, wasn't aware of any of it until my brother sent her the link.)
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From: [personal profile] adrian_turtle


It looks like this is a problem with the admission process, rather than discrimination against enrolled students. Does the college set the admissions policy for the high school? Or is there some committee in charge of admissions, with input from the college and others?

I'm wondering where a concerned alumna might usefully send a letter about having thought better of Hunter than to believe its "specialness and uniqueness" depends on race and class privilege.

From: [identity profile] bugsybanana.livejournal.com


I don't think my class, 1986, had a valedictorian as such, though we had two students give speeches. One of them, a guy I dated briefly, is now on the math faculty there, and sent a link to the story to our class's Yahoo group, saying only that it "was quite a speech." I find Justin's guts inspiring.

If I read the article right, and incoming classes still number the 250 or so they did in our day, then that means only two or three Hispanics got into the most recent class. In this city, at this time, that is ridiculous.

Did you get wind of the whole "Joyful Elite" thing I remember from 7th grade? Might have been after your time. I'm reminded of it, somehow.

In other Hunter news, I assume you know Justice Kagan is one of us, and part of another Hunter family. (Her brother teaches social studies, I think.) She may have been there part of the time you were, come to think of it. I really hope she doesn't disappoint, but I worry.

From: [identity profile] don-fitch.livejournal.com


Sounds like more of the usual. The U.S. educational system is either broken, or designed to benefit some economic classes (&, somewhat connected with that, races) more than it does others. (I rather suppose this is a matter of intentional design -- most local school districts are dominated by members of The Establishment, and operated in such a way as to give The Establishment as many benefits as possible. It's not surprising that the U.S. ranks rather low, internationally, on the scale of (upward) social mobility. We appear to be a declining nation, and I ascribe much of this to a declining influence of The American Dream.


From: [identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com


Mr. Hudson is one brave young man.

Some people may say this is 'the usual', but I thought part of Hunter's mandate, from all I heard about it (I considered applying, back in my day) was to change the usual.
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