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  <title>Praise then darkness, and creation unfinished</title>
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  <title>Friday five: this old thing?</title>
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  <description>via various people, details of phrasing via &lt;span style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/profile?user=kazzanos&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png&apos; alt=&apos;[profile] &apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/profile?user=kazzanos&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;kazzanos&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;1) What is the oldest thing you own?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Probably something from &lt;span style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://cattitude.dreamwidth.org/profile&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png&apos; alt=&apos;[personal profile] &apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://cattitude.dreamwidth.org/&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;cattitude&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&apos;s family, like the ceremonial sword, if we don&apos;t count a potsherd someone gave me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1a) I was interpreting this as &quot;artifact.&quot; If I interpret it to include things of any sort, there&apos;s a polished gray stone containing a fossil, on the shelf above me. And some undated and probably undateable small gemstones in jewelry: amethysts, and little cut diamonds in some earrings from my grandmother that I haven&apos;t been wearing, other bits but not worth waking &lt;span style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://cattitude.dreamwidth.org/profile&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png&apos; alt=&apos;[personal profile] &apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://cattitude.dreamwidth.org/&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;cattitude&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to look at the rest of my jewelry.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;2) What is the oldest home you&apos;ve lived in?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Probably Vanderbilt Hall, on Yale&apos;s Old Campus, which was built in 1893. The house I grew up in, and the one I live in now, were built in the 1920s, and I think our apartment building in New York is about as old. (It&apos;s what NYC real estate calls a &quot;pre-war&quot; building, referring to World War II, meaning high ceilings, thick walls, and out-of-date wiring.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[Not included in this, but the newest building I&apos;ve lived in was our apartment building in Bellevue, which was built around 2010.]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;3) What is the oldest book you&apos;ve read?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The oldest content? I&apos;m not sure, are the &lt;i&gt;Iliad&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Odyssey&lt;/i&gt; older than the Bible? (The oldest book I&apos;ve read in the original language is Plato&apos;s &lt;i&gt;Apology&lt;/i&gt;, though I did manage part of the &lt;i&gt;Iliad&lt;/i&gt; in Greek.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oldest physical book? Probably one of the Anti-Masonic almanacs kept at Yale&apos;s Beinecke Rare Book Library, which were from the late 1820s. Those are the oldest books I&apos;ve needed or wanted to consult that hadn&apos;t been reprinted in the 20th or 21st century.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;4) What is the oldest electronic device that you still use? &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nothing very old, since I gave up on the old Palm Pilots. I haven&apos;t used my digital camera in years, since my last couple of phones had significantly better cameras. I recently plugged in an iPod mini (and saw that the &quot;current&quot; playlist was dated 2011), but that was to check that it still worked before giving it to &lt;span style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://carbonel.dreamwidth.org/profile&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png&apos; alt=&apos;[personal profile] &apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://carbonel.dreamwidth.org/&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;carbonel&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;b&gt;5) What is the oldest work of art/architecture that you&apos;ve seen?&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Oh, this is fun. I keep typing things and then thinking &quot;but wait...&quot; The oldest art I can remember seeing is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://archaeologyinbulgaria.com/varna-gold-treasure-varna-chalcolithic-necropolis-varna-bulgaria/&quot;&gt;Varna Gold Treasure&lt;/a&gt;. Before that I thought of&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleopatra%27s_Needle&quot;&gt;Cleopatra&apos;s Needle&lt;/a&gt; in Central Park, which dates to the Egyptian 18th Dynasty, and then Stonehenge and Avebury. For architecture specifically, maybe the walls of the City of York, which are intact enough that I walked along part of the circuit.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The oldest human artifacts I&apos;ve seen in person were probably at either the &lt;a href=&quot;https://musee-archeologienationale.fr/&quot;&gt;French National Museum of Archeology&lt;/a&gt; in Saint-Germain-en-Laye, which I visited in 1999, or something at the American Museum of Natural History.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=redbird&amp;ditemid=2898233&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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