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Redbird ([personal profile] redbird) wrote2005-09-08 11:22 am
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Deliberately delaying rescue

For those who were questioning whether the delays in getting people out of New Orleans were deliberate: DoD is not only admitting it, they're calling it a job well done.

The excuse is that there were dangerous people in the Superdome. So they responded by making everyone else stay there longer, with no food, no water, and "gang members" threatening them. Also, they claim that they needed to search people for guns and weapons on the way out--remember that everyone who came in was searched, and had to stand in line for hours because of this.

[identity profile] adrian-turtle.livejournal.com 2005-09-08 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The sentence that staggered me was, "Those that were undesirable to re-enter the convention center were segregated from the people that we wanted to provide water, shelter and food." They don't even have the grace to be ashamed of THAT. I couldn't bear to read the whole report.

[identity profile] zsero.livejournal.com 2005-09-08 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh? What's wrong with that? Other than being atrocious English, of course.
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[identity profile] pir-anha.livejournal.com 2005-09-08 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
you infer that, and i can see why. i have a hard time parsing it, his grammar was so bad in that paragraph. which indicates to me that he was speaking without having had his speech prepared for him, and that might easily lead to unfortunate sentence construction leaving some to think "whoa, those 'undesirables' weren't provided for at all". but it could well be that they simply separated people with weapons from the rest of them, put them in a separate place, and gave them food and water there.

before i get upset about this, i'd like to know who was considered "undesirable", and how they were consequently treated. alas nobody asked him that, everyone was so number-happy instead. *grump*. the pentagon press here doesn't impress me.

people could leave the convention center, btw, and many did (the two people posting their story to the socialist website talked about that, didn't they?); i recall the story of the tourists who felt menaced because they were white, and who didn't stay either. so this wasn't quite as bad as the superdome in regard to being locked in. people at the CC had also not previously been searched; you're confusing the two locations. blum is only talking about the convention center.

i do think the whole idea that it took such an overwhelming force shows a kind of mindset about the people at the convention center that i find ... curious. but i wasn't there, i don't know just how dangerous it was. if he had gone in with too few people, and a riot had broken out and people had gotten killed, he'd certainly get blamed now too. i am too distant from this one to judge without knowing a whole lot more. and you know i am not an authoritarian. :)

i am, btw, starting to think that LA state homeland security has a lot to answer for as regards the provisioning of people left in the city. did you see the red cross statement about them being prevented from going in because HS wanted people out?

[identity profile] shikzoid.livejournal.com 2005-09-08 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
What I've seen in online newspapers is that foreign tourists were allowed to leave because their embassies were pitching a fit about unlawful detention.

Janice