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Redbird ([personal profile] redbird) wrote2005-03-28 11:38 pm
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The word of the day is "iff": I keep wanting to use it in comments.

[identity profile] webbob.livejournal.com 2005-03-29 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's handy for agreements and setting contingent expectations:

You can crash at my place iff I'm home that weekend. (Fans can be pushy, best to be clear.)

He'll be a good pet iff he doesn't start spraying before I have his balls lopped off.

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[identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com 2005-03-29 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to be difficult (or, no more so than is polite) and clearly with my /a/s/s/ logician hat on: I think both of those examples are stronger than you mean. Because, as you know Bob, "iff" doesn't just mean emphatic "if", it means that the if/then lines of implication go both ways in the sentence. And in "If he doesn't start spraying before I have his balls lopped off, then he'll be a good pet," the implication is that not spraying is constitutive of being a good pet, rather than merely a necessary condition of it. Or, to put it another way, the logic of that sentence is such that if the second half is not true then the first half *must* not be true. I.e. If he's not a good pet then he must have started spraying before you had his balls lopped off. But I bet you think there are other ways of being/becoming a bad pet.

I'm sorry. It comes over me like that. I'll shut up now.